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What is My Journey in Faith Miracle Healing and Purgatory?


Are you in the yoke with Jesus or someone else?

Are you in the yoke with Jesus or someone else?

I was raised a Catholic in the South, so being a Catholic made me somewhat different. I went to Catholic kindergarten and elementary school up until about the 6th grade. Then I moved into the public school system. Being in a military town, relationships were somewhat fluid. I never noticed in public school that we went to a different church than others. There were so many protestant churches that I was not impressed that one had the truth over another.

Little boys can be very brutal in analysis. No one had the edge on miracles or raising the dead, so my church was not any better than the others. And the Catholic church had history on it’s side.

But in the Catholic Church I learned some valuable principles; one is that God did miracles. Even John Lake commented that he could get Catholics healed quicker over any other group. Second was that if you wanted to follow Jesus it would get you killed. We studied the lives of the apostles and saints. I got the message most of the “good ones” died as martyrs. So I learned the “real deal” had a real price. And a real payoff, the martyrs get a ride right into glory so it is absolutely the best way to go.

The third was long times of prayer.

We were taught that if we prayed little prayers they could be used to get people out of Purgatory. So I would go to bed at night asking the Lord things like, if my Dad (who was killed in Korea when I was 3 and I was the oldest of 3 boys) did not need the prayers, then use them for the one longest in, or the one soonest to come out. The prayers were short and each one had so many days off of time in purgatory. So I figured out which ones had the most time for the least effort, and said anywhere from 10 to a 100 almost every night.


The concept of Purgatory does not seem to be taught much in the Catholic Church today, and I have never heard it in a protestant church. It was one of those things over selling indulgences that fueled the Reformation. Indulgences were if you paid money now then the Church could grant you an “indulgence” that worked with God and you spent less time in Purgatory or got a full pass if you did or paid something special.

This was part of what Martin Luther wanted fixed and I believe rightly so. But the concept of Purgatory is that if you are not just like Jesus when you die then you burn in purgatory until the sin is burned out of your life and then you can go to heaven. Lots of sin meant long time in purgatory, and little sin meant less time. Purgatory had fire like Hell and you suffered until you “got right,” or the sin “purged” out of you.

Now if you die and are not thinking, speaking and acting just like Jesus it is a real problem. But if you go to Heaven that way, and are allowed to mingle in any way with other people or creatures, then you will simply make Heaven into Hell. And that is not an option else Heaven would not be Heaven where all is like and for God in every way. So God has to deal with that in some way.

And if you are ready then you can do healing miracles like Jesus did, and raise yourself from the dead at least once as you die for others. You will at least die a martyrs’ death because keeping you around is the worst thing the devil can think of.

Also we are absolutely told numerous times throughout the Bible that our lives here matter very much. The more you live like Jesus, then you get the eternal rewards of gold, silver and jewels in 1 Cor 3, and everything else is called wood, hay and stubble and is destroyed by fire on Judgment Day. This is bottom line salvation or sozo/saved.

1 Cor 3:10 “According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be sozo/saved; yet so as by fire.”

So our lives and works very much matter in this life. If you have nothing that you and Jesus built together, one meaning of holy, then entering naked is still a wonderful salvation. But what rewards you do earn are of value to you and God forever? So the concept of purgatory is not found directly in the standard Bible, but is found in the Apocrypha. If you look at the story of Lazarus and the rich man, some would also argue the rich man was in purgatory (Luke 16).

From my perspective, if you are not just like Jesus when you die, this leaves several options:

1)      You die just like Jesus in full operation of Ephesians 4 and you have vast mountains of rewards and you have learned to hate wickedness and love righteousness. Heb 1:9 “Thou hast agape/loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.” [To me Paul and John seem closest to this.]

2)      Any sin, less than Jesus you still defend and love when you die, means that your soul must be trained in the Day of Judgment and it is not a pleasant process until you learn: Heb 1:9 “Thou hast agape/loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.” i.e., you are reprogrammed for what you did not get right in this life.

a.       And those parts of your life go up in smoke as the fire tests your wood, hay and stubble. And you do not have the gold, silver and jewels you could have had, but you will be reprogrammed to the level of Jesus.

Heb 8:10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.”

3)      Or you are treated like a computer program and when you die, that which is not like Jesus just goes and you are like a simple computer program with less capability. Thus you are as forever able as your right works, and you have lower capability and rank as those with more right works.

Matt 25:22 “He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents : behold, I have gained two other talents beside them. 23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.”

4)      All three apply after you die. Issues like little children and babies that die are sorted out by the God of Love.

As a child age 8-12 or so I went to bed every night praying for those in purgatory. So that was how my attitude of intercession got built. Today I spend more time in intercession in tongues, but I have written books on praying the Scriptures in intercession. My current view does not include helping those going through the above last 3 options.

But There is More Than Just Heaven-Bound

Bottom line, for those evangelists who are advertising “accept Jesus and go to Heaven” that is absolutely part of God’s message, but unless it is a deathbed conversion there is still a lot of ministry left to be done to reach our job of:

Eph 4:11 “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 but speaking the truth in agape/ love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ.”

Since that is the job of the apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers, if they do not get the job done on Earth, it still needs to be done. But since if nothing else, that scripture is a prophecy, there will be a group on Earth who fulfill it. And those who do not (minister and church member) fall short of the standard set by God, and that means when you die, you are not safe to let loose in Heaven as you are.

Now the difference between purgatory type intercessions, even if it is possible, and healing is that in intercession like that you do not see your answers (i.e., that person getting out of purgatory and going on to Heaven) or do not easily recognize them when they happen (saving a small girl in a typhoon on the other side of the world by your prayer). But in direct contact healing, you can see your results or lack thereof.

Divine Healing Miracles

We all like the instant where healing is immediate while you minister on the street (ad hoc) or in church, a meeting, a healing room or hospital visit. If you do not see an immediate result, if you stay at it you will see more (continued ministry like healing rooms or homes). This is what Dr. Lake did in his healing room and teaching ministry. The more than one prayer to the answer seems to fall short of the Jesus standard. One shot prayer runs less than 100% on the spot for most ministers.

Dr. Lake said he saw often 10-30% one-shot immediate healings. At times he was running +90%. He suspected that his success was a function of those who were interceding in tongues for him. Many of those he prayed for one time then got healed later within 3 to 30 days after the one prayer.

So if you are not aware, you may call a non-instant prayer a failure. Of course, if you are not careful, you may think this breaks faith and they do not get healed. Of if you stay in faith they will if you delivered enough zoe/life when you prayed. Since there is no meter handy to tell how much zoe you delivered, this takes attitude and looking at the Word of God and not the situation.

So my healing success journey was based on my perception of effectiveness and so 10-30% is sporadic enough to make you go, “Ok, I’ll pray, let’s see what happens.” And with that attitude you see very little results, immediate or later.

Now, if we have to and we have time, we pray for hours on one case and see them get out of the wheel chair, or the leg grow back. Still not like Jesus did it, but 16 hours to get one out of a wheelchair may not be your idea of efficiency, but the one who now walks loves it. That I use a dull axe means it takes me a lot more to do the job done, but the job does get done, IF I KEEP AT IT.  If you tire or get distracted half way through, then the evil tree does not come down, but you did some good and did not know it.

Catholic Charismatic Pentecostal Prayer Group

When I was around 26 I got baptized in Holy Spirit while reading a book. Then I joined a really wonderful Catholic Charismatic prayer group and started practicing the gifts of Holy Spirit. I say wonderful as they were more concerned with what the Bible said and not Catholic doctrine.

I cannot remember the first miracle I did, but I am sure it was casting out a demon. One of the first healings I recall was a baby who was teething. I prayed, the pain went away, the baby stopped crying. That lasted for a while and then the baby started crying again. I did not know how to fight through that like I do now.

Years passed and I struggled to follow the current “best” teaching and saw few results. I did seek to pray in tongues 1-2 hours a day and I feel that is what got me through. Not knowledge and understanding, but prayer.

Then we had a family member diagnosed with autism. That is when I started seeking the Lord in earnest in healing. I went back and, found Jay Snell, started reading E. W. Kenyon again, then discovered Dr. Lake, and then Curry Blake. That got me going on street ministry and divine healing miracle results started.

Now I preach a Gospel that fulfills Mark 16:

Mark 16:14 “Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be sozo/saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18.They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.”

That means people who listen to me and believe the Gospel are out healing in divine miracles very quickly.

Some are Faster than Others – Does Empty Religion Really Hurt?

Now if a new convert is young (age 2 and up) or has a non-Christian background we can get them healing in an hour to a few days. If they are a spiritist or spiritual, former witch, warlock, witch doctor, guru, energy healers, intuitive, etc. then as they see the more powerful God, they again can go out and minister healing quickly. If it is a long time Christian (non-Catholic), then they are harder. If motivated to just “do it” like the Power and Love ministry, then they see a few miracles and often do not go further and are never “ready” or “right enough” to go do healing. Since healing is a function of “GO AND DO,” then they soon lose interest. If they go back to a regular church, they soon also “die.”

If they go on a mind renewing program and then lifestyle like we teach in OK, God, Now What? then they go and burn bright. If you do not keep renewed, most seem to “FALL AWAY.”

Me, I work at keeping my mind renewed and I listen to a lot of Curry Blake CDs in my car. He is one of the few that “call me up” continually that I can do this. I may listen to one CD for months. I am in no hurry. I know the biology and it takes time to work and I work it. I have had Curry tell me that my books are accurate, so the issue is not more truth; it is knowing the truth to doing it. Most other teaching makes me feel like I need something “extra” that I do not have and the “call up” is much less.

Still In the Yoke With Jesus = Miracles

Oh, and because I am doing audio books of my books, I listen a lot to me while I edit them. I make a rough version and use that to make my final printed version. I listen to each CD over and over. That is how I finish my books, I listen as I pray in tongues and find areas for improvement. I don’t pretend my books are perfect, but they all have months if not years of tongues over them.

Since healing is also an attitude of staying stirred up, my books stir me up and I see God do miracles. Right now where I live, I do not see others doing more than I am, but that is no guarantee. I am in competition with no one except myself and the next moment. I want to see Jesus live through me more. This may be a bad attitude, but at the rate I am going, I need to live at least 10,000 more years to make any progress.

As I have been working on these three books for the last several years, every spare moment is spent in doing them. Much of what I write is direct revelation and only the beginning of the understanding is there. So many times it gets better and better as I read and re-read the material over and over. By the time it has made it into the book, I have lived out what I write. Often I discover what I am doing is already in the book and I did not realize it.

When people want to debate, I may respond with, “Show me how what you are saying will help me heal people better, or walk in more agape/love.” Or “What miracle results is that teaching giving?” That usually stops the debate, but occasionally we do learn something useful to build the Kingdom.

So this is where I am on my still growing “journey.”

God is no respecter of persons. His ways apply to all, all the time. If you do not see God move, the problem is not on the “God” end.

We are destroyed, walk in failure, fear and confusion, by lack of knowledge and lies, not some administrative decision by God.

God is no respecter of persons. Do the right things and you will get the right results; do anything different and you will be unhappy sooner or later. Digital Universe.

Evil works inspired and powered by the devil are no match for the Living God, but they sure tempt fleshly leaky neurons, even in those spiritually righteous.

There are no wrong answers here, only seek more of Jesus who already paid for every failure we ever made, are now making, or will make. Since He was healed of it, so are you.

It will be shameful for you to show up on the Day of Judgment and see that every hardness of heart was already healed and waiting for you to do the right labour to get that hardness of heart healing already done in Jesus.

A Bible not devoured is like bags of seed stored away. The potential of God into the Earth is there, but never a harvest is made. Jesus is the Seed. The only soil that matters is your heart.

Keep Working the Word so God can Work!

God Bless You and Yours in the Name of Jesus to be more Noble in Him (Acts 17:11-12)

Jesus is Lord of Heaven and Earth!


Donald C. Mann

Speaker, teacher, navigator and author of:

OK, God, Now What? (
Discovering Our Redemption
Battle Prayer for Divine Healing-Field Manual 2

On Speaking in Tongues (Glossolalia) and the Benefits

Tongues - sign with words and dove


The Bible has a lot to say about tongues. It is one of the few topics where God has devoted a whole Bible chapter on it (1 Cor 14) so we can learn to operate it more effectively.

First of all, whatever tongues are, we are commanded to seek to speak in tongues.

1 Cor 12:31 “But covet earnestly the best gifts [all of them, whatever you need or can do now as well as the others you do not do now, all nine of them, including tongues]: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way [of agape/love so that this love is the driving factor that causes you to seek good for the current need by exercising the manifestations of Holy Spirit that helps to bring that good into manifestation for people’s good].”

1 Cor 14:1 “Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts [all of them which includes unknown tongues], but rather that ye may prophesy.”

1 Cor 14:5 “I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

1 Cor 14:18 “I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all.”

1 Cor 14:39 “Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.”

There seem to be three basic types of tongues.

1.       Contemporary languages but never learned by the speaker

2.       Languages not contemporary or languages of angels

3.       Known or existing language tongue that is prayer or prophesy/utterances – this is hard to separate from prophecy


There appear to be two major places to speak them.

1.       Public in a meeting or with any number of other people

a.       Tongues + interpretation = prophesy

b.      Personal in a group, people can hear you,  and possibly disturbing others

2.       Private in personal prayer and worship

a.       No one else around – and you speak in tongues softly, medium or loud, hard and fast.

b.      In your mind/very softy under your breath so others do not know you are praying in tongues

There appear to a variety of manifestations.

1.       Words (range from in head, soft words/muttering to loud shouts)

2.       Song (in head and out loud at any volume)

3.       Praise, thanksgiving, rejoicing, prophesying and dancing

4.       With or without joy, laughter and dancing

5.       Ecstatic – being overcome and speaking almost as if forced to

6.       The words spoken or sung of those in a group all appear to be different

7.       When singing in tongues in a group, the melodies may be similar, yet the combined, melodies sound like a super choir

Christians have experienced some practices:

1.       Singing in a group like a choir (tongues the language of angels?)

2.       Waking up at night during sleep and speaking/singing in tongues

3.       Going to bed speaking in tongues

4.       Waking up at regular times speaking in tongues

5.       Praying in tongues while the leader speaks in English

6.       Interior urging to speak in tongues

Impact of tongues

1.       See immediate answer to prayer

2.       Do not see immediate answer to prayer

3.       Get a revelation or “word” to know what to do next (right away or later)

4.       Sense of increased strength, awareness, direction, energy or peace (right away or later).


Ecstatic tongues are where the person loses some control or all control (robot mode). The person usually sings, dances, and prophesies (mostly praises to God) where they are overcome and seem not to have a choice. This ecstatic type is illustrated in the Old Testament. First with Saul before he became king and Samuel tells him:

1 Sam 10:5 “After that thou shalt come to the hill of God, where is the garrison of the Philistines: and it shall come to pass, when thou art come thither to the city, that thou shalt meet a company of prophets coming down from the high place with a psaltery, and a tabret, and a pipe, and a harp, before them; and they shall prophesy: 6 And the Spirit of the Lord will come upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man (act very differently).

Ecstatic episodes also saved David when Saul came looking to kill him.  Here God used this to save David by having his attackers be overcome of the spirit and prophesy (includes dancing, singing, and rejoicing).

1 Sam 19:20 “And Saul sent messengers to take David: and when they saw the company of the prophets prophesying, and Samuel standing as appointed over them, the Spirit of God was upon the messengers of Saul, and they also prophesied. 21 And when it was told Saul, he sent other messengers, and they prophesied likewise. And Saul sent messengers again the third time, and they prophesied also. 22 Then went he also to Ramah, and came to a great well that is in Sechu: and he asked and said, Where are Samuel and David? And one said, Behold, they be at Naioth in Ramah. 23 And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah. 24 And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?”

Saul sent three groups and then came himself. Here all 4 groups were overcome with ecstatic events that overcome them and controlled them so that they could no longer hunt for David. This appeared to be a very nice way to disable those who sought to kill David, but it did not change the attacker’s attitude toward God or man. As soon as the Spirit left they went back to looking for David to kill him. So this kind of event, with tongues, is a very low-level of spirituality or spiritual maturity as there is not much impact on the one who experience such an ecstatic state. Nor was it about the piety of the attackers, but more about God getting something done.

The type of tongues on the Day of Pentecost appears to have been the ecstatic type where the 120 were overcome and went out praising God. The people from many different lands heard their own language as they spoke in tongues. From the scriptures it could be that either the tongues was in the language of the hearer’s, or the hearers were gifted with interpretation to understand the tongues in their own languages. The inference is that those speaking did not all have the same tongue language. It could have been one or the other or a combination. Since then both kinds of events have been experienced by Christians.

Acts 2:4 “And they were all (120 per verse Act 1:15) filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.”

I have been speaking in tongues for some 35 years and I am not aware that I have ever done ecstatic tongues or that those hearing me heard it in their own language. There may have been many, but I never heard anyone telling me that I spoke and they understood the language. Others have reported both tongues that were in a modern language, but one they never learned. And others have reported that they understood what was being said and they at that time were not Christians, as the person spoke in tongues.

I think Paul included speaking and singing in tongues as part of praying in tongues.

1 Cor 14:14 “For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.”

One big message of 1 Cor 14 is that the tongues Paul is talking about are not ecstatic type and that in the church type events always under the control of the one speaking. Notice he says “I will pray,” and “I will sing.” The decision process is the same if you prayed or sang in your own language or with the spirit in tongues with the language of angels. In all cases here, it is a decision, not an unction or overwhelming desire.

1 Cor 14:32 “And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.”

But the inference is that those speaking in tongues or prophesying thought that they were ecstatic and they were not in control. So Paul is telling them not to let it get uncontrollable.

Now I have met people who were taught the only way to speak in tongues was when they were “overcome” and they saw no issue with interrupting a meeting and no interpretations was forthcoming. But I have never done that as I recall. The teaching in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14 focus on individual choice and resistance to being “overcome” when it is out-of-order.


Paul states that he in his personal time prayed in tongues (speak and sing) more that all the people in that Corinthian church. So he definitely prayed in tongues hours per day.  Consider, if there were 100 people and they prayed 15 minutes in church, then that is 1,500 minutes or about 25 hours. If there were 200 people, then that is about 50 hours, and if they prayed 30 minutes it would be 100 hours for 200 people. 25 hours over 7 days is 3.4 hours per day, and 100 hours is 14 hours a day just to match them.  And to do more than them, Paul would have to do a lot more to say “more than ye all.”  So between 2 and 15 hours a day would fit with Paul’s statement.

1 Cor 14:18 “I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: 19 yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.”

I think it would be safe to say that if these numbers are even close, then tongues had a large part to do with Paul’s ministry.

1 Corinthians 14 talks about public tongues and their misuse. So tongues, while from God, are at your command for public or private use. For me it is usually a decision to pray in tongues. I may have had strong “unction” to pray in tongues, but I felt I could have said no. Since I am not aware of ever having said no, or being overcome, I am not sure what prevailed.

1 Cor 14:14 “For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.”

In tongues it is Holy Spirit using you to speak the words He needs to get things done. Your understanding is not involved.

Dr. Andrew Newberg of the University of Pennsylvania has done scans of nuns in “ecstatic” tongue speaking, and he saw that the vocal control parts of the brain were not active. So the source of the words was not the typical source for regular speech.  The statement that your spirit or Holy Spirit, or in the case of demons speaking though you, the standard speech centers are not activated. He calls some of his findings and interpretations Neurotheology and using tools called neuro-imaging to see these effects. Also Dr. Newberg noted that in those ecstatic tongues did not produce the same kinds of scans in experienced Tibetan monks in meditation. So biblical tongues is different from Oriental meditation and comes from a different source. In tongues the source it not the person (as we understand it scientifically right now).

Note oriental meditation is a process of emptying the mind to get “insight.”

Biblical meditation is the exact opposite of oriental meditation, where instead of emptying your mind, you fill your mind with verses, chapter or whole books of the Bible, and repeat continually by decision.

What I do know is that unless I ask for interpretation, I usually do not know what I am saying in speaking or singing in tongues. Since much of my “tongue time” is also listening to good Bible teaching or Scripture, driving or less complicated tasks, my mind is usually not as involved. If I focus on the tongues they tend to get more intense, even louder if the situation allows. If I focus on what I am listening to in teaching, Scripture songs or Scripture, then I tend to speak tongues more in the background and therefore quieter and less forceful.

At times I have prayed in tongues all day and not listened to anything. When thinking of others, or looking at a prayer list, and praying in tongues, I seem to recall a greater sense of “connection” with those I am praying for. But I had to work on staying focused with a name list or situation list handy. I call this ministry or directed prayer tongues. I tend to stay on each item as feels right to me. So some are short, others longer, or even all day.

Many think tongues are either for private use only, or public use only. Both are valid. Here it seems that Paul is talking about a mix of public and private tongues.

1 Cor 14:2 “For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men [public], but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries [public or private].”

1 Cor 14:4 “He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself [public or private]; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church [public benefit from God]. 5 I would that ye all spake with tongues [private or public] …”

Here the purpose of tongues that is not prophesy is to edify the person speaking in tongues, and Paul (Holy Spirit) wants all to pray in tongues. This could include participation in public tongues and interpretation = prophesy for edification of others. Dr. Lake and Curry Blake say that speaking in personal tongues loud, hard and fast is a way to build spiritual power and confidence in God when combined with Scripture. I have also experienced this.

Here we are told that praying in the Spirit builds up our ability to believe or have confidence in God.

Jude 20 “But ye, agape/beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost (tongues), 21 keep yourselves in the agape/love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal zoe/life.”

So tongues combined with Scripture reading or listening can be a way to build faith for a more effective Christ-like walk.

Some Christians say I glow in the dark. That is what they say, but not everyone sees it, and neither do I.   I guess a 5th way for tongues is in church or prayer meetings where we may pray or sing in the Spirit, usually in a medium voice. I love to pray in tongues as I read the Bible and occasionally as I read good, biblically accurate books.

Benefits of tongues are they build me up in my most holy faith and open me to the love of God. Lots of praying in tongues increases my ability to believe the impossible things of God and so I get to do and see more miracles.

My physical tongue sometimes gets sore from lots of praying in tongues.  Spiritually when I do loud, hard and fast tongues, I can feel my spirit in my chest area rise up and it is like my spirit is stirred up. To get there usually takes me at least 5-20 minutes. Loud, hard and fast tongues also builds me up physically – it is work, especially if done while walking. So regular loud, hard and fast tongues for hours at a time, builds me up both spiritually and physically.

When I am at church or prayer meetings, I usually pray in tongues for the preacher silently or under my breath during the meeting. I see a variety of effects. Sometimes I see or am aware of nothing. The preachers may start to preach more Scripture with more accurate interpretations, various spiritual attacks are thwarted, or witches in the congregation will start to have “problems” with me. I keep blessing anyway. Often the godly spiritual power in the meeting increases. Other times it seems to incite the demons to frustration and manifestation. Then I direct my natural language and/or tongues to get the people free.

I do not typically do tongues and interpretations in a group setting. I do get interpretations, by asking if none from anyone else seems to be forthcoming, and I do prophesy also.

Another benefit of tongues is it lets me know that God is there. I sometimes wonder if it is really God or not. He usually persuades me by a variety of means. But if I keep to my regular goal of 2 hours a day I have/tolerate less questioning thoughts. For more spiritual power, I up it to more loud, hard and fast, and aim for 3-6 hours.

It seems to me that 2 hours of tongues strengthens me for 2-3 days in most peaceful or normal conditions. Other times, 2 hours is only “good” for about 15 minutes of intense situations.

I am always aware of what I am doing, and do not go into any “ecstatic modes.” I don’t look for them or avoid them. I guess if I asked for some, I would get them. When I ask, I do get interpretations of them and sometimes slip back and forth into English.

I have never been aware of tongue results in healing like commanding in English. I have seen people die while the whole group prayed for days in tongues without any aiteo commanding prayer. I know others do feel like they get “commanding” tongues and do see results.

I do experience songs of deliverance that seem to impact me and others I am specifically praying for. I may go from speaking to singing to English and back and forth. Thank you, Jack Hayford.

Ps 32:7 “Thou art my hiding place; thou shalt preserve me from trouble; thou shalt compass me about with songs of deliverance. Selah.”

Often in a prayer battle, if one is leading I may join in with tongues rather than praises or echoing their commands. I am aware often that I am ministering to others at a distance as I pray in tongues. I once raised a dead baby that way and found out about it from the parents later, but as I became aware of the battle in the Spirit, I switched to English and commanded life and told death to go in the name of Jesus. That battle seemed to last about 15-30 minutes as I recall. But as I started in tongues and only finished in English, the English part was 5-10 minutes. So not sure what part tongues played in that battle except to stir me up and/or make me more aware.

I heard one person say tongues was like spiritual java, it works them up. I know I use tongues to get myself stirred up before I pray. John Lake said there were two elements in healing, faith and power. You get faith from the Word and power from tongues or praising God, affirmations, proclamations, etc. Dr. Lake said tongues made his ministry, so you know he prayed in tongues a lot, throughout the day, and often late into the night.


The more tongues I do, the more bold I seem to be, especially in street ministry. Also if ministering to a large crowd, and the immediate miracles seem to slow down, I will take a break and do loud, hard and fast tongues, or even alternate between that and worshiping type tongues until I feel ready to go again. I may invite others in the crowd to do the same, but that is not always possible, so I depend on myself and not the crowd. This can take 3-20 minutes of tongues.

Unless I am “aiming” my tongues at a particular issue, I am simply letting Holy Spirit do “His thing,” and use me. Usually I feel like I am thanking or praising when I sing in tongues, but occasionally that has also turned to commanding type tongues.

Other results are in my business life where I have gone into impossible situations, and by praying in tongues, along with affirmation magnets, ended up doing the right things. This is daily tongues, not just one time events. So I would say the benefit was the Lord got me to do the right things, but I could not explain how I did it. The right things just came to me “naturally” without following some plan.

I do most of my praying in tongues in the car listening to good teaching. So whenever I get in my car or anyone else’s, I’ll start praying in tongues either out loud, if by myself, or silently if there are others.

The overall results is my life so far, now at age 65, which is pretty cool. I’ve done things people only dream about, my business results have rarely been equaled, and in ministry I have had some significant events, and I have a lot more coming. So while I live, and until the Lord comes, Holy Spirit tongues – private & public – will always be part of me.

Dr. John Lake stated that tongues was the making of his ministry. One key that he developed was tongues and interpretation for ministry. Lake would pray in tongues all day, so he probably got those 3-6 hours or more in a day. After a while, he would speak in tongues for a while, and then ask God for the interpretation, and he would use that as his basis for his sermons. This was either notes to follow, or major sections of text. I do similar for my books and other writings.

Lake suspected this was how the Apostle Paul developed his revelations of the work of redemption in Jesus. After all, Paul spoke in tongues, “more than ye all.” Others prophesy by first “stirring” themselves up with tongues, and then speaking. So the effect is one of tongues, interpretation and prophesy, all mixed together. I have some videos showing Tim Storey doing the same kind of thing in a healing ministry. So we are talking tongues first, then ministry, then periods of tongues during the ministry, all intermingled.

Early in his ministry, Oral Roberts would spend hours walking in Tulsa praying in tongues. As he did, God showed him many things, including  where and how to build his church and schools. For most of his ministry, whenever he had problems, issues or opportunity in his ministry, he would pray in tongues for long periods before making any decisions.

I do similar, but sometimes it is hard to say, “I’ll answer in a few days,” and then actually spend the time I need in tongues. Over the years I have proven to myself, a lack of tongues does not mean less troubles, but it does mean less godly responses in myself and others, and absolutely more better decisions, not to mention more love to others.

I consider tongues a vital part of my life, and definitely one of my spiritual disciplines. Another is using tongues to practice the presence of God and stirring myself in the dominion of Jesus, especially to dominate devil works to destroy them with the name of Jesus. Here this may be a combination of muttering various Scriptures and then moving back and forth into tongues as I do. As Curry Blake says, “It is not so much the words you pray, but you knowing you are connected to God continually for, with and in Him.”

Refreshing: Another benefit of tongues is refreshing and restoring of your soul. Smith Wigglesworth once said something like this, “I take a vacation every day as I speak in tongues until I am once again refreshed and encouraged.”

This is based on where Paul is explaining the value of Holy Spirit tongues:

1 Cor 14:21 “In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.”

And this is an excerpt from this Old Testament teaching on tongues.:

Isa 28:11 “For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.”

This suggests that failure to speak in tongues on a regular basis leads to spiritual overload, frustration and poor decisions. Many pray for refreshing while God has placed it in our hands – oraissedr tongues.

We are destroyed, walk in failure, fear and confusion, by lack of knowledge and lies, not some administrative decision by God. As Jesus said we will know the truth if we stay in His word, then any problem is a shortage of grace and truth. We already have all the power there is in Holy Spirit in us, the issue is getting into enough agreement in Him with grace and truth so He can do the good He so desires to do through you.

God is no respecter of persons. His ways are like the laws of science. Do the right things and you will get the right results; do anything different and you will be unhappy sooner or later. Digital Universe.

Evil works inspired and powered by the devil are no match for the Living God, but they sure tempt fleshly leaky neurons, even in those spiritually righteous.

There are no wrong answers here, only seek more of Jesus who already paid for every failure we ever made, are now making, or will make. Since He was healed of it, so are you.

It will be shameful for you to show up on the Day of Judgment and see that every hardness of heart was already healed and waiting for you to do the right labour to get that hardness of heart healing already done in Jesus.

A Bible not devoured is like bags of seed stored away. The potential of God into the Earth is there, but never a harvest is made. Jesus is the Seed. The only soil that matters is your heart.

Keep Working the Word so God can Work!

God Bless You and Yours in the Name of Jesus to be more Noble in Him (Acts 17:11-12)

Jesus is Lord of Heaven and Earth!



Response To A Good Message

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Father, in the name of Jesus, I pray a mighty outpouring of Holy Spirit upon this land, this earth with these people, and that the tide of sin and iniquity which has so swept and cursed this land shall be turned back, and a reign of righteousness and justice be manifestly established, and that all nations shall get down low at the feet of Christ our King, that God may bless and prepare each and all for the appearing of our Lord in joy.

That unity in Holy Spirit would prevail that all born-again ones would see each other as called of God for joint efforts of ministry such that the gates of hell will crumble in the onslaught of true agape love delivered in dunamis power and right thinking at every level of spirit, soul, body and life. Father, make it so, in the Name of Jesus. Thank You, Father, thank You!

Father, as I speak, enforce this with your lightning power. I command each antichrist and ruling demonic spirit to be cast into blindness and confusion of effort, that every command structure be thrown into confusion and blindness and rendered ineffective over this land. That each one of us would learn to agape love righteousness and hate wickedness such that we deliver just as Jesus did and still does.

That the knowledge and glory of You, Father God, would cover the earth in spirit and in truth as the waters cover the sea. That the name of Jesus be glorified in granting signs and wonders in that awesome name of Jesus so that your people would glory in the power of the name of Jesus. Father, make it so, in the Name of Jesus. Thank You, Father, thank You!

Join me and add your own for us to agree with!

We are destroyed by lack of knowledge and lies, not some administrative decision by God.

Do the right things and you will get the right results; do anything different and you will be unhappy sooner or later. Digital Universe.

Evil works inspired and powered by the devil are no match for the Living God, but they sure tempt fleshly leaky neurons, even in those spiritually righteous.

There are no wrong answers here, only seek more of Jesus who already paid for every failure we ever made, are making now, or will make. Since He was healed of it, so are you.

It will be shameful for you to show up on the Day of Judgment and see that every hardness of heart was already healed and waiting for you to do the right labour to get that hardness of heart healing already done in Jesus.

A Bible not devoured is like bags of seed stored away. The potential of God into the Earth is there, but never a harvest is made. Jesus is the Seed. The only soil that matters is your heart.

Keep Working the Word so God can Work!

God Bless You and Yours in the Name of Jesus to be more Noble in Him (Acts 17:11-12)

Jesus is Lord of Heaven and Earth!

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Discovering Our Redemption

Battle Prayer for Divine Healing-Field Manual 2

Persevering Prayer, I Prayed But They Were Not (Yet) Healed

Heal the sick in that city - Luke 10:9.

Heal the sick in that city – Luke 10:9.

This condition is not new, and can be beaten.

Golden Rule: Keep working the Word so God can Work!

Besides the Bible commands to faint not in prayer ministry, (Matt 7, Luke 11 and 18), in John Lake’s divine healing ministry of the Spokane Healing Rooms his offer was to come every day to the Healing Rooms for 30 days for an hour of prayer and teaching and you will be improved if not fully healed. The only faith required was to come.

One with terminal cancer came 91 days before full healing. Lake based this ministry on 1 Cor 15:58. He was in the business of healing the sick, not ministering to the sick, or prayer for the sick. Lake had no problem staying 12, 24, 36, 48 or 72 hours or more in continuous aiteo commands with a critical case until things got better.

In one case, a girl with clubbed feet, the ankles gradually turned and then the feet straightened. For one, this happened in 3 minutes. In another case it took over 12 hours of commanding ministry.

They had some 200 people come every day. Roughly 80 were healed every day, or about 40%. I had estimated that roughly 10-30% got healed the first day, most in 3-7 days, and a few took all 30 days for improvement or healing. In conversation Curry Blake agreed my estimates were reasonable.

In 2004 David Hogan talked about going to a man who had lost his legs; they went back about 16 times, once a week, as a group, and stayed for more than an hour each time. The trip was over an hour each way. During the entire trip they praised, worshiped and prayed and sang loud, hard and fast in tongues. Anyone who talked about baseball scores, their children, the latest revelation, anointing, impartation, blessing or other dissipations, was either ignored or left behind.

God grew the man’s legs back from the waist down – perfect job. It was something like a 75-100 hour investment. As the legs grew back they started at the hip and then formed the knee, then the lower leg, then the ankles and then the feet and then the toes. Each step appeared to be fully formed. Then the man walked freely.

David Hogan said to raise the dead they plan on 36 hours of continuous or straight prayer in teams. He builds his churches to be able to do this. They do it whenever someone dies, young or old, sick or damaged, wounded or crushed. They do it automatically whenever someone dies. As of around 2006, they got some 10% or more raised from the dead.

They take seriously this command of Jesus: Matt 10:8 “Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.”

Faint not, David Hogan says that for years, and still often today, he sees most of his miracles happen 1-5 days later. He prays each time as if it will happen now, but if not, it will still happen

We ministered off and on for 2 years to another before the healing was complete. We ministered daily to another for 3 or 4 months before we saw the first improvement. I love the 5 second and 3 minute victories; they keep me going for the 10 minute, 1 hour or longer battles.

To graduate from John Lake’s ministry and become a Divine Healing Technician, they were sent to a terminally ill person’s home and did not return until the person was fully healed. In order to be ready for the graduation they had to be at the Healing Rooms where they got to see some 80 people healed a day and heard Bible teaching all day. Today we call this on-the-job training. Some got the terminal person healed in a short time, some longer, maybe a month. They stayed until healed or raised from the dead, 24×7, and few failed.

It is great if you can have someone to go learn with, but if not, do like Curry Blake did, keep at it until you start to see immediate results.

I like the way Charles Ndifon says it, if there is resistance, stop and focus on how big and great God is and how little the devil is. One of Charles’ common expressions is, “Little devil, he loses all the time.” Another expression is: “This is easy; God does this easily.” Then he attacks the devil with the Word of God as a sword and then Charles ministers again.

Notice that it was manifestations of the same devil in every miracle Jesus did.

Acts 10:38 “How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.”

This was a spirit of infirmity but Jesus attributed it to Satan – one devil.

Luke 13:11 “And, behold (stop and make this change your life and world view so your next actions are consistent with it), there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself. 12 And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity. 13 And he laid his hands on her: and immediately she was made straight, and glorified God. 14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.

15 “The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering? 16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?”

Even though each case may have been one or a legion of demons, Jesus attacked the devil and people got healed. So the same devil that caused a headache and you got healed, is the same one causing cancer or death. So recall that whatever prayer victories you have had or these testimonies here, it was the same devil in every case.

If a 3 year-old child can get a lady free of pain and up and out of a wheelchair, and a 5-year-old can deliver a man of cancer in 20 minutes, or I can speak to a man bent over in painful arthritis and he walk free in a few moments, then the same devil can be defeated anytime, anywhere, by anyone in the name of all of God’s power and might, the name of Jesus. Same devil, different manifestations, all healed in the name of Jesus.

So if you are having trouble, just call the devil by a different name. Instead of cancer call it a headache and cast it out in the name of Jesus.

For me I have seen some massive miracles compared to the rather easy ones for renewing a joint or repairing a few nerves in a wheelchair victim. Sometimes I go, “Soft tissue or hard tissue, all easy for God.”

Message: Keep your mind renewed in the Gospel of Christ in you the hope of glory, and greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world. Faint not!

Jesus taught persevering prayer. When Peter was jailed (Acts 12), the Jesus-taught church went into continuous prayer 24×7 – Peter came out by a miracle. In James 5 we are told to pray like Elijah, until you get the answer.

Jay Snell wrote in his article “Healing for the Rest of Us” how to attack delayed healing ( I wrote “Battle Prayer for Divine Healing – Field Manual 2″ to address these issues. If you are in pastoral ministry, these tools are for you. If you will not give up and be willing to battle for 1, 8, 24, 36, 200 or more hours straight or in sections, it may not be fun, but you can win.

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Do not attack the person for their unbelief or sin, Jesus never did and neither should we. Fasting does not change God’s mind. Fasting with Scripture immersion can get you to where you can believe God more. When the disciples could not cast out a demon, Jesus said it was due to the minister’s unbelief and not the victim or the parent. In this case it appears that the disciples were more worried about what people thought of them and their stature to the religious leaders. Fear of man and fear of failure can be major stumbling blocks. Some translations state this kind of unbelief goes out with fasting and prayer.

Fasting can humble your soul so you can hear and believe God better. Jewish prayer was mostly praying the Scriptures back to God for Him to fulfill. Of course that is how we wrote the Battle Prayer in FM2, so that you both renew your mind and aiteo for healing as you minister life. In this case most people actually build their faith as they use the Battle Prayer.

Or course, if you see no immediate benefits, it takes more faith to do it again or to go back again and again. Each time you are knowing it is not you and your great prayers, but God’s love in grace.

This principle always works: “You can act your way into belief quicker than you can believe your way into acting.” Gird your mind, stand in God’s love and strength, and who you are in the new creation, talk to the problem in the name of Jesus and minister again.

It is amazing. The devil will get you to focus on one problem and cause you to forget all your other victories and the other victories you have heard. Recall all the healing results and testimonies you have heard, and know, if the devil has been beaten even once, he can be made to obey a second time.

I agree multiple prayer and continuous long time prayer is not the way Jesus operated in the Gospels for healing, deliverance, leper cleansing and dead raising, and there has got to be more to the story. In one recorded case Jesus did minister twice for a blind man. For now, it is what it is. Do what you can and you will get more. Walk in agape love and agape love never gives up. Faint not!

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God bless you and yours to be more noble in Him (Acts 17:11-12)

If Jesus spent 3-6 hours a day, 1-4 all nights a week, and often arose  early in the morning for Scripture prayer, and Peter, James, Paul and other disciples did the same, why not you? So if you wonder where your answers from God are, now you know.

You can plant a seed with just 1-5 minutes of our Affirmation Magnets that can grow into your tree of deliverance. If you need immediate help, then gird your mind and get all three of our Power Trilogy books. Or know that your faith failures are due to arrogance, laziness and bad attitude.

God is not making administrative decisions on who to heal or not, you are.

God is not the problem, the devil is not the problem, we are the problem, and in particular, if your prayers are not working, you are the problem in lies you believe. To remove the lies, replace them with truth, then go cast out the devil. That is why we wrote the Power Trilogy series, so you could learn to believe God better, fight better, and win more.

Putting It Together

When you minister healing, your immediate focus should be on He who is in you, not the problem at hand. There is nothing greater than He who is in you.

In you is the God of the Universe, the one who made everything. Imagine the night sky, or even the day sky. Imagine the mountains or the sea, of better yet, the solar system or the stars. See its vastness. Not just the earth but all of space. And know that He who is in you made it all with a word.

And what it will take to heal that person is a change so small that the air will hardly move when it happens.

Do not look at the problem. Do not care how bad or critical the situation is. Even if they die, Jesus in you can raise them from the dead.

Look at Jesus by Holy Spirit in you until Jesus is bigger than the situation at hand. If that takes you 6 hours, then get busy. If that takes you 6 minutes, get busy. If that takes you 60 seconds, then get busy. If it takes 6 seconds, get busy. Look to Jesus, not the situation.

Sing, mutter, meditate on this: John 5:30 “I (Jesus and me in Jesus) can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear (and see by the written Word), I judge (against the devil): and my judgment (against the devil and his works) is just (the perfect will of God right now); because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me (who hates the devil and every work the devil does on anyone, anywhere, anytime, and the will of Father God is for me to free them with the name of Jesus and believing God heals through me).” Not because I am so great, but God is great in me and through me. God is the lover, I am the vessel.

The glory of the new birth is that it is not about me, but the treasure of Holy Spirit in power in me.

Jesus showed the will of God is to blast out the devil and heal in every sickness, disease or disorder anywhere, anytime, anyplace for anyone or any group.

1 John 4:4 “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them (every devil and work of the devil): because greater is he (Holy Spirit) that is in you, than he that is in the world.”

Look at that situation and proclaim the greater One is in you. You focus on Who is in you and not what the devil has done or is doing. Even if they were dead and rotting, that is nothing to God. Look away or close your eyes if you have to.

Say something like this, “This little devil has no strength against He who is in me. God’s power does not even notice when God blasts that devil and his work when I speak, or touch them with my hands. The zoe life of God by Holy Spirit at the direction of Jesus, by the name of Jesus, by the will of Father God will set this one free. I am qualified by the grace of God to deliver God’s healing power for Him anywhere, anytime, anyplace for anyone or group. It is not about me, but Jesus in me. Yahoo!”

Now repeat until you are full of the conscious presence and power of Jesus to destroy the works of the devil. Giving glory will be easy then.


If you are in an immediate and critical faith battle, get Battle Prayer for Divine Healing – Field Manual 2 right now. Or for any other problem, get OK, GOD, Now What for renewing your mind on the New Man you are in Jesus. The Psalms and Proverbs and all the Old Testament are great for learning and doing the ways of God, but the Affirmation Magnets in OK, GOD, Now What are specific to renewing your mind in your new creation, the new man in Christ Jesus. If we had found something better elsewhere, we never would have written them.

A Bible not devoured is like bags of seed stored away. The potential of God into the earth is there, but rarely a harvest is made. Jesus is the Seed. The only soil that matters is your heart.

The truly difficult thing is the consequences of not managing your thought life.

 Keep Working the Word so God can Work!

Jesus is Lord of Heaven and Earth!


Donald C. Mann

Speaker, teacher, navigator and author of:

OK, God, Now What?
Discovering Our Redemption
Battle Prayer for Divine Healing-Field Manual 2